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they've been waiting for the united states really to put pressure on the saudis to try and get the answers, and so far it doesn't seem like the united states at least publicly is putting enough pressure on saudi arabia, wolf. >> all right, jomana, we'll stay in close touch with you. that's it for me. i'll be back at 5:00 p.m. eastern in "the situation room." "newsroom" with brooke baldwin starts right now. wolf, tha halloween. ki kids, when you're out mapping out the doors tonight looking for the good candy, don't be surprised if you get pocket constitutions. >> and president trump is trying to keep his republican majority in congress.
he kicked off his eight-state rally with election day just six days away. we have chief correspondent and special appearance today by john king. welcome to you, sir. and here to discuss more on the breaking news this afternoon, cara scannel. president trump is blaming don meghan for the moral probe. so tell me what he said. >> in this final encounter between don meghan, he was focused on this cloud over the
presidency. meghan didn't appoint robert mueller but he did cooperate with his investigation. he met with him multiple times, answering questions about mueller's desire to fire robert mueller himself, to want to pressure jeff sessions to recuse himself. so this kind of is part of this big tumultuous relationship that has continued between these men despite meghan getting two supreme court justices on the bench for trump. a weird way to end this relationship with mueller fixated on the investigation while he's having his final good-bye chat with meghan. >> john, you heard her sort of explanation, a bizarre way to leave the building. is this all about the blame game?
>> he gave rod rosenstein a break for the day and blamed somebody else for the investigation. the fbi had ample reason to start the counterintelligence investigation of russian meddling, ample list of questions about possible members with the trump campaign. jeff sessions followed a law book 101, first year law student directly. this is what the president does. he lashes out and blames others. he hasn't blamed don jr. for bringing russians into the trump tower in the middle of the campaign. this is what the president does, thanked don mcgahn and i'm sure he's happen to be off the block today. >> let me read this tweet. paul ryan, he said, should be focusing on holding the majority, rather than giving his
opinion on the birthright citizenship, something he knows nothing about. ouch. >> ouch is right. number one, the president wants to close on immigration, he trusts his instincts. the speaker respects the constitution more than the president of the united states and thinks this birthright issue might be going too far. he doesn't mind the president saying let's build a wall but the birthright is the scitizens step too far for the speaker. everyone is going to get asked, who is right, the president or the speaker? that's not right in the final days to have message dissidence. >> so what's your take in the final days? so florida tonight, then missouri, west virginia, indiana, montana, his final stop before election day is missouri. what does that tell you about his strategy and republican strategy? >> it tells you that, a, the
white house political shop is listening. the center of nevada, dean heller was grateful came back, doesn't want him in the final days. the president is going where he's welcome. the president is going to states where he won big where he'll get what he loves most, big crowds. but he also going whether you're a fan or critic of the president to places he can legitimately help. republicans have a chance to not only hold the senate majority but maybe a chance to add one, two, maybe three seats. we have two different elections going on. the senate election climate have very different than the house election climate. the president almost exclusively focusing on the senate where he is actually a good asset for his party. it's smart. >> so as far as democrats are concerned, they have to feel pretty good going into perhaps at least flipping the house. you had the leader, nancy pelosi, on with stephen colbert last night, she's obviously
feeling pretty good, confident. maybe too much so. here she was. >> let me say this, up until today i would have said if the election were held today, we would win. >> what happened today that changed that? >> what now i'm saying is we will win. [ cheers and applause ] >> we will win. >> please don't say that. do you want to say that on hillary's fireworks barge that she cancelled? >> we remember the fireworks, a little premature celebration. should she have gone that far, john king? >> publicly a lot of democrats wish she hadn't. priva privately she studies the numbers better than anybody. nancy pelosi knows the numbers. it's not a blowout. if the election were today the democrats would win more than the 23 seats they need and nancy pelosi knows that. she's campaigning to keep her hold on leader, to be the next
speaker. she's trying to be the front woman of optimism. there are some democrats cringing say don't jinx it here. will they have it? even smart plugged in republicans say the democrats will win somewhere 32 to 35 seats. but given 2016 and all the volatility out there, should she have said it publicly? >> eh. thank you so much. with election day now less than a week away, more and more republicans turning against one of their own here. iowa congressman steve king, the head of the house republicans campaign arm, the man in charge of getting republicans elected tweeted this against king. quote, king's recent comments, actions and retweets are completely inappropriate. we must stand up against white supremacy and hate in all forms and i strongly condemn this behavior. plus purina intel, land o' lakes
have all pulled support. and it was written "steve king, the most deplorable congressman." it came after he showed support for a white nationalist in a canadian election and has attacked billionaire george soros in what critics consider is an anti-semitic move. rick is an opinion columnist for the "des moines register." welcome to you. >> thank you. >> steve king has been making comments of this ilk for years and years and years. so why is someone just now saying something? >> you know, it's a really good question because some of us have been waiting for national republicans to speak up on him for some 22 years.
that's how long he's been in office between the iowa legislature and then the u.s. house of representatives. none of this rhetoric is new for him. he's been beating up on minorities, on immigrants, on muslims, on anyone who is non-white immigrants for a very long time, but it seems to finally be getting a little bit of traction because of a story that recently appeared in the "washington post" about how he had gone to austria and in a trip supported by a holocaust memorial fund took time to meet with white supremacist, a far-right party that is associated with neonazi groups and to do an interview with their newspaper saying that we don't need anymore immigrants, they're not contributing anything to our culture, we don't need multi-culturalism. i think nationally some politicians felt, especially given the timing of this coming right around the time of the synagogue attacks in pittsburgh, i think some folks felt that
they had to speak up. and social media ran away with it. >> this is what steve king says in his defense. quote, americans all created equal by god. these attacks were organized by nasty, desperate and dishonest fake news. their ultimate goal is to flip the house and impeach donald trump. establishment never trumpers are complic complicit." this a ruby red district and at the end of day despite everything he says, will iowa voters come home to him next tuesday? >> you know, it's a really million dollar question and i am waiting with baited breath for the outcome.
i spent time touring his western iowa district to see where his voters are at and see if they're still as committed to him. he has rwon past races by 24 points. now a pollster finds just a one-point difference between them and steve king himself is saying there's an 18-point difference. but what i am noticing is a difference in the way people in his district are talking about them and this is very significant because he has relied for a long time on appeasing white christians and keeping them happy by the fact that he's always very anti-abortion and will always vote against any anti-abortion measure. now some of those same white christians have adopted children from other countries and they're really getting tired of his rhetoric about we can't keep our civilization going with other people's babies. some of these adoptive mothers are saying, wait a minute, these are our babies, we're raising
these babies. >> right, right. >> so that's happening. and other people are calling attention to the fact that he's not achieved a single legislative success in his 16 years in the house except for the renaming of a post office. that also makes you wonder how he's delivering -- what bacon is he delivering home? and the only way that i've come to understand it is that he actually -- people in his district are doing quite well financially, so they're not hurting, they're not living in poverty and they're afraid of change and they've had really minimal exposure to people of different races, except now that there are more and more latino immigrants, people from south of the border coming to work in meat packing plants in his district. >> let's loop back around next wednesday morning to see how this goes. you know, whether or not he's able to pull it through, despite all of the odds that seemingly
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♪ you are watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. the shooter in the pittsburgh synagogue massacre faces more charges. he is due back in federal court tomorrow. meantime, it has been the second day for grief, anguish for this close-knit pittsburgh community. it's been several days since saturday morning as they continue to bury the 11 victims killed in saturday's shooting. hundreds attended three services today, 69-year-old irving younger liked to the first person there to greet you and liked to help people know where to find their place in the eulogy book. and students say -- mourners say
his greatest attributes were his faith. and there is a feel of healing where the mayor says these two innocent victims were likely the victims of a hate crime. they were both shot and killed last wednesday at a kroger supermarket after the shooter first tried to ambush a predominantly black church just down the road but he couldn't get inside, couldn't open those doors. and investigators also say he allegedly told a bystander
before he was arrested that, quote, "whites down shoot whites." >> every day there seems to be a situation that unravels in our country. we as a community need to step back, reach that hand out to that neighbor and start talking to the ones that we love and we cherish. >> certainly this has rattled the foundation of our community based upon the fact that we are a small town with a big city atmosphere in that sense. joining me now, billy williams, church administrator for the first baptist church, where it was the suspect's first target. >> thank you for having us. >> it's my understanding it's your job to sit at the desk and look at the surveillance cameras outside those doors. had you actually been at your
desk watching those monitors, seeing this guy trying to get in, what would you have done? >> i would have done what i've done hundreds of times before. when i see someone approaching the church on the monitors, i typically get up from my desk and go to the doors to greet them and ask if i can help them. it's something i do pretty regular and would have done the same thing if i had seen the situation on past wednesday. >> so you've had an entire week to think about this. had you been sitting at your desk, do you think you'd be sitting here with me today? >> no, i don't believe so. i don't believe the individual came by our church to do us anything but harm. as i reflect back on it, my biggest fear and struggle over this past week is not just me approaching that door but my friends, co-workers that were also in the building and just the thought of opening the door and allowing something like that to happen to not only my church members but they're my friends.
i've been knowing them for quite a while. that would have been a pretty tough situation to deal with. >> in terms of your friends in that church, it's my understanding a service had just finished, just about an hour before this individual tried to get in. how many people were in the church at that time? >> an hour before we probably had about 70 people in the bible study. we typically every wednesday at noon our pastor has a noon bible study and it wraps up pretty much around 1:15. by the time people leave the building, it usual's usually ar 1:30. so it was fairly close to when the individual came by our church that we had about 70 people on the property, and then after that there was probably eight of us still in the building when he actually came to the front door. >> so since he couldn't get into the church -- were the doors locked? is that what the issue was? >> yes. we have a security system that we lock all exterior doors so that when we're inside, we have
the monitors for the purpose and we have ways to greet people. so typically we make sure the exterior doors are pretty secure. >> so they're locked. he can't get in. he walks down the road to this kroger and shoots and kills two african-americans, one of whom was a grandfather, whose grandson was there and witnessed the whole thing. i just want to ask you how are you, how is your community coping with this? >> we've had an outpouring of support from the entire community, both from phone calls, e-mails, people stopping by tochurch, several different groups have also sent flowers and cards directly to the church. so we've had an outpouring of support from the entire community. but there's been phone calls and text messages and e-mails from clear across the country, from all different locations throughout the country. we've gotten support from fellow
christians and alike. >> so as the calls and the love is coming in, i know at church this past sunday that the police chief, sachl roge sam rogers, s congregation and said the attack was racially motivated that some do not want to believe. do you believe this man targeted this church, those folks because of the color of their skin? >> i really do. i have reflected back on it some. because of the camera system that we have, i saw how he circled the building before he approached the building, before he tried all three of the doors, and i just don't believe he came there with any intent but to do us harm. so i really do feel like that was his intent. and he actually left the property in his car driving away from our church at that point.
>> thank goodness those doors were locked. just our hearts go out to the loved ones of those two who were killed. billy williams, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> coming up next, the fbi is now investigating a scheme that was designed to smear and discredit the man leading the russia probe. my next guest says she was actually offered money in exchange for information. so what's this about? who is behind this plot that quickly fell apart? we have the back story next. at t-mobile, forty bucks gets you an unlimited plan and a new samsung galaxy s9 included for every line. this is what you get with your $40 plan at verizon. recap! with t-mobile, you get this: four lines four phones for forty bucks.
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unraveling. a smokpokesman for the special counsel said a bunch of women were offered money to lie and say mueller acted inappropriately to them decades ago. one of my next guests actually was on the receiving end of one of these e-mails offering payment in information, any encounters she may have had with robert mueller. she's jennifer taub. and michael from "the daily beast" joins us as well. welcome to you both. jennifer, you've never worked with robert mueller but you get this e-mail. >> yes. i got this e-mail that began
something like "dear professor taub," we know you've had encounters with robert mueller and offered to may me to speak with them. my initial response was i don't know robert mueller, never met him. initially i thought i should reply that and say have a nice day. as you continued reading the e-mail, it seemed like they were trying to cast a wide net to speak with anyone who may have ever known him, to see if he had done something wrong. and they were just basically digging dirt up on him to try to smear him. so as soon as i kind of got to the end of the e-mail and saw that was the case, i went on the web and found the special counsel's e-mail address and forwarded it on to their office so they could investigate. >> why do you think you were contacted? >> initially i had one idea and recently i've come up with a different one. initially i thought that maybe because i had spoken about
mueller, they may have thought i had been a prosecutor and maybe, you know, the end of the e-mail it also had invited me to give them other references and they'd pay me for those. so i thought maybe someone else had gotten this e-mail, taken the bait and just thrown my name out there just to get money, you know. but after yesterday when i see that this might have been part of a bigger plot to suggest he had sexually harassed somebody, i think maybe they saw the op-ed i had written a few weeks ago about the kavanaugh hearings and maybe they just thought since i'd written about that, you see? but i really don't know. >> interesting. it's a hypothesis. may be true. lachlan, to you. it seemed to unravel as quickly as it started.
>> jack berkman is a republican lobbyist and all-around conspiracy theorist. he's famous recently for peddling the conspiracy theory that seth rich was murdered due to his role in the leaking of democratic e-mails during the 2016 election. he's going to host a press conference at his usual location at a hotel in northern virginia tomorrow. that will be an interesting event to cover. the other person is a young gentleman by the name of jacob wall, who made a name for himself as a pro-trump twitter personality, who is very bombastic and caustic and wildly inaccurate in things he says publicly. he's banned from trading, was a former hedge fund trader, was banned from the national trading
association. jack hired a company called surefire intelligence to help them with these alleged misdeeds by robert mueller. and in that company is jacob mall. it appears to be this very elaborate facade of fake people and fake clients and so on created by this wall character. in fact, he seems to be the only person behind it. he won't admit that after being presented with facts pretty definitively showing that, he continues to deny it. there's a lot of misdirection and dishonesty. it's going to take quite a bit more reporting before we sort out the full extent of this campaign and the people involved with it. >> what do you know just about the women who have been contacted? >> we were one of a number of news organizations who received an e-mail about two weeks ago from someone who claimed to be named lorraine parsons. and she said or this person e-mailing as her said they had worked with robert mueller at a
priority law fi private law firm decades ago and she was being offered tens of thousands of dollars to allege some sort of sexual misdeed by robert mueller at the time. we can't con foufirm this perso even real, let alone have worked with robert mueller at the time. this is a misdirection plot by berkman and wall in this campaign. we tried to get this woman on the phone and nail down her role more definitively. it's all very suspicious. i would caution anyone who receives an e-mail from that person from taking it at face value. >> well, keep digging, lachlan. and jennifer, good for you for reading the e-mail and not dismissing it and reporting it to the special counsel's office. we'll stay on that story. meantime, here's the question everyone's asking. was it a hit job?
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boston's most notorious mobster, james "whitey" bulger, has been killed in prison. but one of the big questions today, who did it, why did they do it and how did they manage to pull it off in a maximum security prison? bulger was found unresponsive yesterday in a maximum security prison. we're learning just days before bulger's killing, a bipartisan group of lawmakers voiced deep concerns to attorney general jeff sessions about the safety
and the staffing of that very prison. so with me now michael kindle, a former federal prosecutor. he once represented the family of one of bulger's murder victims. mike, good to see you, sir. we don't have a lot of details, but what we do know is he was killed in this maximum security prison. i'm curious, do you think it was a hit job? >> well, most people who are familiar with federal prisons will tell you that the lowest form of life in a prison is an informer. bulger was the most notorious informant or rat in the country. he obviously would be a person that would have a bulls eye on his back in any prison, particularly one as violent as this one. >> so how would that hit come down? would it come from someone outside the prison and just carried out from within the walls? >> i think it would be ubiqui
ubiquito ubiquitous. numerous people in the prison would want to go after him. he may have a boston connection or someone wanting to make their name. but they'd all have the same motivation and being an informer, he would have no friends in prison. >> we mentioned he had just been transferred 24 hours before. how rare is this? >> well, prison murders happen. they are somewhat rare. i think we've read and all seen with respect to this particular facility, it's quite violent, it has understaffing problems, and so it would be a particularly bad place to put such a notorious informer into the general population. you really got to think what were people thinking? >> i want to ask you what the victims' families were thinking. you represented one of the families. have you talked to them? how are they reacting to the news? >> i haven't spoken to anybody
in the last couple of days, but in general from comments we've seen in the press from other victims' families, there is this sense of some sort of ironic just desserts but obviously too late. he's somebody who eluded law enforcement for 16 years on the run, somebody who had a life of crime until the age of 65. nobody should applaud a murder in prison, but obviously this is not a person anybody has sympathy for given his sociopathic record. >> not at all. michael kendall, thank you. >> thank you, brooke. >> you got it. coming up next, imagine family members now sifting through debris as heartbreaking evidence starts to surface after this newly built passenger jet crashes into the ocean. they are going through backpacks and wallets and shoes. what radar is now revealing about the unusual final moments of that flight.
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new developments today into what brought down a boeing 747 that killed 189 people. indonesian investigators are searching for the flight recorders of crashed lion air flight 10. a group of about 100 divers along with ships and helicopters are focusing their efforts on locations where debris had been identified by sonar equipment. even before the debris was located, lion air took this extraordinary step and fired its technical director. david suses sousy was a former
investigator and he said this flight dropped a thousand feet in 30 seconds from an altitude of 5,500 feet down to 4,600. he called the loss of altitude very dramatic and unusual. ivan watson is in jakarta where earlier today he witnessed a painful undertaking. >> reporter: the authorities have been bringing in relatives of some of the 189 passengers and crew to look at some of the personal effects, the belongings that have been salvaged from the java sea where lion air flight 610 went down. and moments ago we saw one man come forward and actually identify a black running shoe and immediately begin weeping in front of us here. and then he was led away as the authorities then carefully placed that shoe into a plastic
bag. so you can just imagine how emotional that must be to see something from your loved one laid out here on the white plastic here in a container port that has been serving as a kind of hub for this very difficult salvage operation after this terrible air disaster that took place on monday morning. >> ivan watson in jakarta, thank you. analyst justin green is with me. you saw the pain on the family members faces in finding a shoe. is that what happens? is that protocol? >> the national transportation safety board has done an incredible job with the family assistance program. the airlines have plans, the ntsb and faa are very careful.
there's actually professional companies that come in and deal with all the personal effects. they categorize them, they clean them. one of the things you have to understand -- >> but would they let families go through and look at them? >> no. after all of them are collected, all of them are sorted and all of them are made safe because the pieces of -- >> metal. >> it could be pieces of metal.
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. okay. now to my favorite story of the day. newly discovered letters are revealing that not only did o'connor and rehnquist date but rehnquist proposed to o'connor. o'connor rejected his marriage proposal as they had broken up and she was already seeing someone and and that man, john, would later become her husband. joan, i heard that this even stumped you and you wrote the book on o'connor. you didn't even know about the proposal. >> i didn't, brook. you're right. it's such a sweet note that evan thomas found. evan is doing a new biography of
her and he had access to the justice's papers herself. someone like me had access to lots of correspondent but not this particular letter. these two people, william rehnquist and sandra day met at stanford law school, they had a deep friendship, they dated, they went to movies. they both graduated in '52. shortly before graduation she meets john o'connor. she talked about how they met proof reading and cite checking law reviews and they wound up having a great love affair. but here's what happened, which is what i love about the rehnquist/o'connor story, they remained friends even after they both met other people and both settled in phoenix, arizona and their families played charades,
picnicked and in 1981 when o'connor is nominated as the first woman by william rehnquist -- i'm sorry, by ronald reagan, rehnquist writes of her "she's a ten strike." she was from milwaukee, the bowling capital. they remained really good friends, even though they never married. >> i love that. stanford, dating, says no, ends up on the supreme court. joan, thank you for that. >> thank you. >> we continue you on. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. we have new details for you from inside the oval office. cnn as learned that president trump blamed his former white house counsel, don mcgahn